Natives "required" to date Natives?

[ajlamb (deleted)]

OK, I have been on 3 other sites and have experienced this on all 3 (not this one! lol):
I have come across Native men on these other sites and each man expected me to want to date them (at least), and got rather rude and insulting if I didn't. Of course, I asked why, and was told (in various ways) by each man that because I'm Native I should go out with them. WTH? One guy (a full-blood) even told me that because I was 1/2 White & 1/2 Native, I would be "of help" to him, as I was Native enough to understand the issues, but White enough to get him in places. Nice, eh? let's get real- I'm 50, not breeding stock anymore, so what's with this sense of requirement?
Let me repeat-NONE of this has occurred on this site-I'm just venting here & hoping someone can offer a plausible reason for this. Thanks!

[tosawii]

`Wow is what I will say first of all, have to agree with you about your questioning them on their thoughts or even reasoning?
Will say many Native women are strong, have had children even in the 50s, my Grandmother had two past 50, so you are not old, maybe only in mind.
Have to say about the Native blood though, where we are enrolled, our Tribal Blood does not transfer to another Tribe, like from Lakota to Apache or to Navajo, it only is added upon your Tribal ID card.
Even among our Shoshoni People, Fort Hall or Wind River is not added to our Nevada Shoshone Tribes, it is just recognized.
In all, you are that make-up of your Native Bloods, mixed, but not recognized as Full, even if you are mixed by two Full blood parents. You are forced to claim one, or be enrolled with one.
On the other hand, since being raised in our Tribal community, have seen many young people have a non-native person in their Life, but are seemingly ashamed or shy with them, and at Pow Wows, do not walk close to them or hold them, hahahhaaa
So if you are with them, they do not recognize you, you been warned, and just hope you Non-Natives can deal with that aspect, because it will appear if the Native person is not Strong to Protect you even from themselves.
That is All

[ewo67 (deleted)]

`Thank you, Tosawii, for your open and honest words.My opinion: if a man is not man enough to stand by your side, no matter what, is he truly a man then? I mean is he really the man you want to be with you?
Sorry guys, but this is about ALL men. The issue is not a NA one. White men do such things as well, only in a different shape.

[ajlamb (deleted)]

`Thanks, both of you. This is not an issue of "preferring" one over the other, it's just the expectation and almost demanding way in which it has been presented to me. Trust me, I realize I'm nothing to be fought over, and to be honest, I prefer Native men (always have!). That being said, I'm not going to date someone "just because".

[naturewriter (deleted)]

`Have to jump in here with a few words, which I hope will add some perspective to this topic. Every person with an identifiable cultural identity has this issue. I was on the subway in Toronto, Ontario listening to two women talk about their Asian friend who has been with a white man for four years and her parents "know of him" but have not met him. The women described their friends parents as "wanting her to date within her own culture." I've had the same experience - more from my grandparents than my parents and I can say, having married outside my culture - it takes a great deal of commitment and patience for that to work. Add children and it becomes overwhelming.

I'm thinking of a conversation with a man who is both Southern Paiute and Apache - identifying with his Southern Paiute heritage. He grew up on the rez and is educated and economically middle-class. He spoke of breaking up his long-time relationship with his white partner because she wanted him to call in sick and spend the day with her.

What occurred to me, is that if he had a job as a young man and called in sick and got fired - that could explain his decisions working a 9-5 job. I, on the other hand, grew up in an economically much stronger area and had choices of jobs. I was different, but the people in the town where I grew up were more "old money." I was never one of them, but I learned how to think like them.

I've gone on at length here - but the bottom line is that you have to care deeply enough about the other person to really imagine what a situation looks like through their eyes - sometimes it takes a few days of thinking to figure it all out. When you trust that the other person just needs time to sort out the cultural differences, it's much easier to stay calm and not speculate.

Wishing you all love, light and laughter - and your soulmate.

JJ

[thunderseed (deleted)]

`Some people are so lost with blood percentages, it is called scientific racism which was originally created by the government to keep our people separated, apart, isolated, that creates hatred, fear. The real native way has nothing to do with blood percentage. Everything is fear based. It is the creation of fear, which is working on some people, because the original intention was to create reserves, "you can't get a status card if your ___" ect, and separate the mixed breeds so as to dwindle down the population = create more white folks. So there are those that react like you say, but also those who react the opposite. It's a very raw effect of cultural degradation. Of things that could be blamed on society.


Even natives are all different colours haha, for example, even some fullbloods have paler bums than i do, and are a lot more white than i am in the summer, and i am mixed ha, different tribes and nations, different skins, different looks, why does it matter?

Some people just have not Waken up. There is no such thing as full blooded!

Our ancestors were alive for many thousands of years before us, always mating, mingling, interconnecting, and travelling far and wide, all is one, and before that even, our ancestors came from those that came from the stars, our genetics trace back to ancient times, to one seed. In a weird way, we are all related.

Anyways I haven't had any negative experiences myself. I have found there is a huge population of those that are very much into interracial dating.

[meskwakiguy (deleted)]

`thunderseed, it amazes me why it takes some so long to understand or even reject your logic. heck im not the most educated person by no means but i can do the "math" as it were and time and time again i see and am repulsed (not to mention humored) by our own "arrogant ignorance". im not here to debate nor refute any others views on whatever this or thee original topic was im jus sayin...god bless ya thunderseed for ya insight and way of looking at humans.