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patsydecline (deleted)
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`I think a hataali came to see my friend's mom one night while we were staying out there for a few days. We visitors went back to the guest house out of respect...nice to see the traditions keeping on!
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wirrarika
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Generally speaking,it is better to study your own ancestral traditions than to seek anothers.However,it does seem that a few non-Indians may have been called by Indian spirits to learn Indian ways.That does not give one people the right to steal another peoples traditions.Clownway is right about ancestral spirits guarding traditions passed down in families.A Medicine Person of whatever tribe would have to seek permission of the ancestors before they could even consider teaching someone of European blood traditional ways.This however,ALSO APPLIES TO INDIANS SEEKING TRADITIONAL WAYS OF A DIFFERENT NATION.Many Indian ways are to be kept by Indians,however the Creator wants people of every race to return to living in a sacred way,so inevitably Native people will have to at least offer some assistance to Europeans to help them find their way.Europeans in turn have to acknowledge what was done ON THEIR BEHALF to other cultures,educate themselves and support Native causes with money,voting and volunteering,saying you love Indian culture without doing anything to help contemporary Indian people is meaningless lip service.In my ancestral culture the shamans are called Marakames.I resisted my heritage for most of my life until I had an "awakening",but that is a private matter.I am no shaman or medicine person,and if I was I would not go around saying so anyway.One must always be humble when they are on that path,whatever Indigenous Nation they belong to,but people in traditional communities,they know who the Medicine People are.If you are White,don't just show up there and ask to be taught,don't expect that you deserve it.If you go with open mind and open heart,maybe after a LONG TIME,you might be shown a few things,if you are lucky.Come there to GIVE,and maybe you will receive.
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patsydecline (deleted)
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Posted: Post subject: Re: Generally speaking |
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wirrarika wrote: Generally speaking,it is better to study your own ancestral traditions than to seek anothers.However,it does seem that a few non-Indians may have been called by Indian spirits to learn Indian ways.That does not give one people the right to steal another peoples traditions.Clownway is right about ancestral spirits guarding traditions passed down in families.A Medicine Person of whatever tribe would have to seek permission of the ancestors before they could even consider teaching someone of European blood traditional ways.This however,ALSO APPLIES TO INDIANS SEEKING TRADITIONAL WAYS OF A DIFFERENT NATION.Many Indian ways are to be kept by Indians,however the Creator wants people of every race to return to living in a sacred way,so inevitably Native people will have to at least offer some assistance to Europeans to help them find their way.Europeans in turn have to acknowledge what was done ON THEIR BEHALF to other cultures,educate themselves and support Native causes with money,voting and volunteering,saying you love Indian culture without doing anything to help contemporary Indian people is meaningless lip service.In my ancestral culture the shamans are called Marakames.I resisted my heritage for most of my life until I had an "awakening",but that is a private matter.I am no shaman or medicine person,and if I was I would not go around saying so anyway.One must always be humble when they are on that path,whatever Indigenous Nation they belong to,but people in traditional communities,they know who the Medicine People are.If you are White,don't just show up there and ask to be taught,don't expect that you deserve it.If you go with open mind and open heart,maybe after a LONG TIME,you might be shown a few things,if you are lucky.Come there to GIVE,and maybe you will receive.
If you are White,don't just show up there and ask to be taught,don't expect that you deserve it.If you go with open mind and open heart,maybe after a LONG TIME,you might be shown a few things,if you are lucky.Come there to GIVE,and maybe you will receive.
I wouldn't dare be so rude to y'all or inauthentic to myself. I deeply respect the die-hard hold-outs of your good old way, and i recognize their authority. I myself have found that there is a way for a white person to respect Earth and practice a spiritual path fully earth centered and authentic to our white selves from picking around the ashes of the traditions of our own culture. For this, we need y'alls help. We need to know what to look for in the ashes of our own long lost tribal roots. Like giving thanks over food, there's one I have found to work! And taking responsibility for my own impacts...i don't need to bug anyone for an 'Indian name' to do that, right? I'm listening to the Elders from Turtle Island now, because the ones from my culture are clearly failing to make sense. I gratefully pay attention, and do my very best to live in a better way than what i was taught. I appreciate deeply what you had to say here. I think we white people, my ancestors being colonists, need to put a leash on our egos, practice some humility and stop the dominance and control game. We need to remember who we really are.
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`we Dine' look, find, & teach beauty. we are open to teaching beauty to non-Dine' also. this is what Diyin' (Creator) instills in our traditional walk & everyone deserves to learn & no one should be left alone in darkness. the universe walks with me...
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greyowl26
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`I am native American on my mom's side of the family I have no nation main is scadacook nation but the papers from my great great grandmother marriage to her husband was distroyed in a fire and she was full blooded native American I have been by myself trying to find a nation to take me in and train and stuff that I can pass downto my nephew and family and over my years I have claleted native stuff boots form the chairakee nation a chocker I bought at a pow wow shilth I made for a hunting knife pouch native American bandas I gave myself a native American name when I was a boy
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