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joeonthelam wrote: `yeah & it's a good thing we keep our traditions intact also. without, we would be lost as a people. a strong tradition keeps the relationship healthy.



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`zzoe,it's right

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`I think what is most important is what is inside a person and not the color of his or her skin. I think that if we focus too much on the culture, we lose sight of that fact that first we are human. All babies speak the same language, and this is proof of that basically we are all the same. We all need water, earth, wind, and fire to live. And we all, like much of nature, bleed red. But as we grow into the culture that we are raised in, we are also slowly separating from others who are different on the outside.

I respect those who choose to be with their "own kind", but I do not agree with that. Myself, I choose to focus on the inside. So skin color does not matter to me. I would rather take the time to know someone. If they are a really nice person, who knows what kind of amazing experiences that could lead to! And to find that out takes time to know that person. This is how I live and as a result, I have met some of the most wonderful people throughout this world and have had some of the most beautiful relationships, in which I learned so many wonderful things, even including about myself. So if I chose to only be with people from my culture, I would have missed out on all those wonderful experiences with those people from other cultures. And I would not have learned such beautiful things, as well.

Too much focus on the culture has a tendency for a lot of people to want to keep separate from those who are different, which then leads to stereotyping. In reality, there is good and bad among all groups of people. It is not the culture or skin color that is good or bad, it is how a person chooses to live their lives that is really important. And that all points back to the fact that reality begins within, in the mind and heart together. We have both so we should use both together.

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As a strong, independent full blood native woman to a native male who choose to be with a non-native. No Tribe, because the Native woman are the back bone of the people.


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`I know a "full blood" Lakota couple personally. Both speak Lakota language fluently. After having three children, the wife started to have affairs. The husband had a good job and provided well for the family. And then she abandoned the children and decided to get drunk and be with anyone who would buy her drinks. The husband took very good care of the children. And when their divorce court came. the verdict was the husband got sole custody of the children, and the now "ex-wife" was to play child support. He raised those children himself from the time those children were 2, 3 and 5 years old. They all graduated from university and have good jobs and they have their own families now, too, making the father a grandfather.

In the meantime, the ex-wife became alcoholic and died a few years later from drinking household cleaning fluids. During the 18 or so years that the father had those children in his custory, the ex-wife came to see them only 4 times. And each time she saw them, she only stayed for a few minutes. Then she was back in the streets again.

When the children became adults, they approached their mother and wanted to help her. But she turned them down and told them to leave her alone.

And when so many Native girls become pregnant in their early teens, the daughters got their university educations first and they had their children in their late 20s. In this case, the father was the backbone of this family.

Not all men are bad.

And I know of a recent case on one of the Lakota reservations in South Dakota, where a full blood Lakota mother got so angry at her baby for soiling his diaper. Yet, she didn't want to get her hands dirty by changing his diaper so she went back to texting. The feces started to drop on the floor, and the baby does not know what that is. So he began to play with it. When she saw her baby doing this, she immediately kicked his little head so hard that his whole body went smashing into the TV. She is sitting in prison now for killing her own son.

Both of these "full blood" Lakota women totally violated the sacredness of being woman, of being a mother.

There are good AND bad women and men in all cultures. Being "full blood" native is no exception. Being a woman does not necessarily mean you are automatically good. It's how you live your life that matters.



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`There are a lot of interesting posts on here. And I enjoyed reading all of them. Even the one who said this was BS LOL! I think everyone has the right to say whatever they want. That is freedom of expression.

My question is, are there differences between people from different tribal nations? For example, here in Germany, people living in different parts of the country speak different dialects of the language. And there is a mentality that goes with it, too. So even though everyone has their individual identity, there is still a cultural part that is almost the same in everyone in a district. So when I talk with people from the very south part of Germany, I can barely understand them because of their dialect. But they are very warmhearted, open and boisterous people, in general. But when I speak to people who live in the northern Germany, they are nice but they present themselves in a way, as if they do not want to talk to you, even though they do. It just seems like they dont. They are extremely reserved, in general. And their dialect is next to impossible to understand.

So even though everyone has their own individual identity, there is still that cultural part that is the same with those who belong to the same group.

Are there differences like this between the different Native nations, as well?





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`I know we all do not think alike. For example, even with the different Lakota tribes, some of their leaders signed treaties with America, while others like Chief Sitting Bull and Chief Crazy Horse were totally against signing those treaties. So that shows that not all Lakota people think the same. So it probably is true, as well, that though the different Lakota tribes spoke the same language, there were differences.

One can see that in the language, too. For example, in many Lakota groups, "Lala" means "grandpa", and this is usually spoken by children. But other Lakota groups say "Kaka" instead. And since this shows differences within one tribal group, it goes without saying that yes, even though many tribes had similar ways of looking at life and the universe, there were differences, too. Another example of that is that we could not even unite to fight off the Europeans when they came over to North America.

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`You can also see differences in the way people joke. For example, there is a funny story among the Lakota Nations that goes like this:

On the Standing Rock Sioux Rez, the women walk behind their men to make sure they walk straight.
While on the Cheyenne River Sioux Rez, the men and women consider each other to be both important, and that no gender is more important than the other. And that even though the genders are different, they can compliment each other very well in a relationship.
On the other hand, on the Pine Ridge Sioux rez, their women walk all over their men

Its a silly story, but there is always some truth to stories like that, and this shows that the different Lakota groups think differently from each other. And they use humor to teach that aspect, as humor is a very important part of Lakota culture.

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`LOL!! I like that story! Thanks for sharing :)

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Pardon me, can the author of this topic please tell me from where she got her information? The reason I ask is because in Europe, there are a lot of Native guys living here with European women. But there are hardly any Native women living here in Europe at all. So in Europe, it is the opposite of what the author of this topic is saying.





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`But in the United States it's the contrary it is the native womans much more that which are europeans mans sorry loveternal for have answer responded later ! :)

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`Its ok, lily4567 :)

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`I believe that cultures can be beautiful. However, when a child comes from two parents, who come from different cultures, I think that is extra special and these children should never be considered "less than". Lily4567 said in another forum that these children will be both cultures and I agree with her 100%. Such a child is a representation of how beautiful it is when the world comes together like that. And that child should never be forced to choose one culture over the other because that would be like him or her cutting part of its own body off.

Underneath cultures, is that we are all humans and that we all need the earth, wind, fire and water, to live. And we all bleed red. We need to see each other the way the earth sees us, because we are her children and without her, we are nothing. It is not only oil companies who are hurting the earth, it also people who hate each other because of skin color who are also hurting the earth, because the earth sees no skin color. Like chosnazzy said earlier: it is not a race that is good or bad, it is how a person lives his or her life. You will always find good and bad people in all cultures and skin colors.


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`Yes very agree with everything you say loveternal
and it is true that a child of parents of two cultures differantes will not be only one culture but both because he was not born of a single parent, but two


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Blood migration: Many Native men and women subconsciously and consciously choose to be with non-Natives so their offspring look less Native and more mainstream. Some say lack of "Native pride" and others say to give their kids a better life subject to less mainstream prejudice. Either way it seems to create identity issues for their offspring.

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