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Catawba and Miami and Heinz 57 perhaps 16th or > Indian

 
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cedar1tree




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I am a genealogist and have trace my ancestry from the early 1700's.
A 7th great grandfather Thomas came from Londondary, married a Catawba woman. He had a trading post near Columbia SC on Saxe Gothe near the rivers. He traded up and down the rivers from Charleston to the Catawba Nation. The GrGrgrandmother is identified in his will as a free Catawba Woman. I have the names of his brothers and sisters and where they moved from Londonderry. One younger brother migrated and became a trader also. Thomas and his Catawba wife had two children. He died and left a will naming the son. I have found in other history books of the era the name of the daughter, her husband and their child.

The father Thomas died of illness, his weathy trading partner and the son were captured. The son was almost 17 at the time. The partner was much older. The French Indians of Canada ran the two of them all the way to the north of the Ohio river. The son was sold to the Shawnee and he married another captive slave, a Miami Woman. I have a 15 year gap of no records during the captive time. At the end of the French and Indian Wars, captives were released, and the son made his way back to South Carolina and claimed his inheritance. From there he went back to the Catawba. He was shunned as he had a Miami/Shawnee wife, who was the enemy. His mother was probably dead by this time. There was no other mention of her exept in a journal/letter written many years after her death and the sons death.

The son had a family of two boys and two daughters. The daughters migrated to Knox Co Ill. --perhaps near their mothers village.
They married into the Boydstun family and either died in Il. or moved to Texas. The son of Thomas moved in 1792 to Kentucky and several of thier kids married into other Indian tribes from Virginia.

Shortly after the Trail of Tears, there was much unrest even for part bloods in Kentucky. Thomas's son William became a Baptist Missionary.
Williams Children all moved to Missouri.

I have this well documented from 1727 until the present generations.

I am Scottish, Scot Irish from Northern Ireland, Catawba, Miami and unkown tribe from Virginia. There is also a Cherokee line that came through Lee Co Virginia and was on my paternal grandfathers's wife's side.

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.You dont say!! I think that we should all get to know our own family background but sometimes it is hard to because of some tribes didnt have a written language just an oral one.

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cedar1tree




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`There is a way--from the early 1800's there was a US census, Not sure when all N/A's were added, Probably mid to late 1800's, but most tribes have BIA census rolls that can trace your family back a long ways. Take that and any oral history passed down and you can learn a lot, at least go back 4 or 5 generations.

Talk to your grannys now before the stories are lost. my Granny told me all my stories in the 1940 and after I started researcing my history it all matched.

The south east seems easier to trace than the SouthWest tribes. However I am finding now that I live in Arizona and my neighbors are most Dine" there is a lot of oral history in familes, and the Clan system is vey rich.

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`Catawba people in SC and Monacan people in eastern Va are both sister tribes related to the Great Old Sioux Nation by the mother tongue, Sioux.
My father's mother's heritage comes from 2 sister tribes related to the Delaware /Lenni Lenape Nation by the mother tongue, Algonquin. Other sister tribes are Shawnee, Chippewa, Ojibway, Cree, Cheyenne, Blackfeet and even the Miwok of California. There is oral tradition that they crossed the frozen ice from the west. They arrived late in North America thru Alaska. Then they the spread south and east.

My mother's nephew is Sioux enrolled and direct descendant of one chief who had two wives who were both sisters.
The Sioux people have oral tradition that their ancestors migrated from the big island that sunk under the ocean in the East which is further east of NC coast.
They did not come out of Asia. They arrived in North America thru NC coastline.
They followed the buffalo herds to the plains region. One of the Sioux speaking clans called Blackfoot stayed in the East.
Other cousins of the Blackfoot clan left for the Plains region and they now live on Cheyenne River reservation today.
Many people, both black and white, in the East, have been told of their Blackfoot heritage but they were not really told the full story of who the Blackfoot are.

They are mostly not aware except for the few that Blackfoot is the name of the clan belonging to one of the eastern sister tribes of the Sioux Nation.

People of Blackfoot descent tend to confuse the Blackfoot descent with Blackfeet tribe in Montana.

One man was aware of his Blackfoot heritage and he married a woman who is also of Blackfoot descent.

Together, they researched and collected many historic records. They and other cousins pieced together their detective work. They found the answer to the question of the origins surrounding the mysterious Blackfoot identity.

They have photos from 1930's of their elders who passed on. They showed unmistaken eastern Sioux features.
I had seen their photos. They were right. And, yes, the western sioux people do have the same eastern features.
Sioux people look very different from the Navajo or the Hopi.

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