Blackfootedgirl....

[chumani67_PREV (deleted)]

I know you were hoping for issues to be discussed in these forums that enabled people to think deeper about things and, hopefully, make something positive out of it....hon, if you can solve the way people talk to one another and regard one another as human beings to ENABLE honest diagogue, then I believe you will have your wish! And solve a major hurdle for humanity. I just wonder if anyone can be kind and open with people..just because they are another human with feelings..without wanting something. The majority cannot. I have really gone out of my way to respect the people here..and there are kind people here..dont get me wrong..even ones I am not at all happy with..dosen't make them a "bad" person! Just a difference in perspective about this forum and maybe I never should have put the initial post in the first place.. But I am talking about being slammed twice (in emails) about my being a mother..Madonna/Whore complex here! I almost felt as if I were on Catholic Passions! (now, yeah, someone will take offense and I will pre-apologize). Put down by some women terribly..and of course the not "Native enough" to have a voice or a conscience. How much blood in our veins is the appropriate amount to infuse in us a conscience toward our fellow human beings anyway?? I know from the way some have talked to me it sure isn't 1/4...thats how some have made me feel anyway here. I have seen a lot of people go silent on this site for fear of being attacked, verbally. Wonder why?? This reminds me of a bad relationship where two people are walking on eggshells around eachother hoping not to step on someones land mine. How are the major problems that people would like to see solved ever going to be in this world when people can't even go 3 or 4 post without fighting? I am sorry Blackfootedgirl..your heart IS in the right place!! PEOPLE just seem to be fundamentally handicapped in communication. And I include MYSELF! Obviously I am missing something somewhere with my own ability to get a clear point across. You are all...just the same to me, regarded really great people here in the forum. I am just out for now because I dont want those feelings to change and become bitter myself.

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`chumani67 I think you and cello are the best friends anyone could have.. I am honored to call you both friends.
it is a sad thing when others want to live off others misfortunes.I regret saying anything about my childhood and wish I had never put that out there for others to feast on it. This is not the place for me to air my past, if I wanted help I would go to see a professional not some wannabe to be counselor..
Who cares if someone is full blood 1/4 or whatever!!Are we not all humans. hey and if this is the way some natives judge you by your percentage then they are not worth your time.
As far as those slamming you in emails just shows what kind of people they are, bunch of low life scum bags have nothing better to do then write hate filled emails.Shows where they are coming from and where they are going..
Good decent people here sure!!But there are lot of people that want to hurt others because they are not happy with themselves, I pity them. But know this I am happy in my life and at peace with all that has happened to me and when someone calls me names I just laugh HAHA!! because nothing they say can even touch me it's just words across a screen from people that mean nothing to me and they are not worth the salt in my tears!!! FOR I AM

[zoupi]

`Well, I generally don't come in such conversations first because I don't see the necessity to tell my opinions and feelings on all the topics shared here, second because lot of the subject do refer to the Native identity, culture and beliefs so being French, even if I have some ideas or feelings I prefer to let the peoples directly concerned discuss together and learn the way they have to look at things.

Where I can participate is on all the subjects refering to just the "persons" we all are. To have a "real" personality is something good and you, Chumany, are a woman with a "real" personality... hurted maybe, not always "diplomate" maybe (lol) but a good heart. I have any doubt about that !

Each time one writes something, one takes the risk to be fighted. It's worse on internet because peoples are not face to face and so the words go often farer than inside a direct meeting. Don't take too much care of it. A bad Email can always be just deleted...

Except for peoples you can considere as being of importance for their open mind and their sincerity, don't give importance to what finally has no importance ! I have read hard words I was able to understand and others honeyeds ones I personally do find unbearable !

To end on a point of humour (except my "terrible" English I allow you to laugh about ) I have seen you listened my wish to can see a more joyful picture ! If you can, also follow this one : stay with us Shumani or you will miss to me

Friendly

[blackfootedgirl]

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[chumani67_PREV (deleted)]

`With all do respect Zoupi, which is sickenenly lacking in the forum, the pictures I use on my profile are my business. But thank you for the compliment. I am just at a point where I really just don't give a damn. Maybe people who do should start speaking here instead of just being spectators..not at you, ok? A lot of people read these and form judgements, and maybe email..but don't have the balls to put it out there and risk being treated in the manner as you have seen. And UNTIL it gets directed at you maybe it is easily dismissed. Thank You.

[blackfootedgirl]

`First my deleted post had not a word, I was so excited to respond I just hit submit with nothing written.
Now on to the matters at hand......

Chumani,
The people who you speak about, who try to ruin your day with useless and mean spirited name calling are wasting their time, but only if you do not respond. Say nothing in return.
Do not leave this site, that is what they want you to do and you will only add fuel to their fire by doing so.
Misery loves company and often they will try to turn their problems and faults around and make them yours,they are button pushers and are taunting you into lowering yourself to their level, by getting a response out of you.
If you know who you are ,and can live with your choices in life and hold yourself accountable for what you do and say,be proud of yourself because it makes no difference what is said about you by others. Your friends who know you well will know otherwise and those who don't will hopefully be adult enough to realize what is going on.

Eleanor Roosevelt said
" No one can make you feel inferior without your consent"

Huggeroftrees,
you should not regret what you say if it is said with good intentions and a pure heart , everyone is here to learn from each other, But I feel you are hurt deeply by these insults by the way you verbally blow it off, I could be wrong, but I just sense that in you.You are a very sensitive person who puts her heart out there because you want to believe in the good of others to a fault.

These "Trolls"as they are called on other forums do not deserve a response until they can play by the humanities rules of common courtesy and respect for others. We do not have to always agree on Forum subjects to placate our readers and Authors of such, just treat each other with the respect they deserve, and if they do not deserve respect shown by their treatment of others, as hard as it may be.....
turn your back to them and say nothing.

Your silence will be heard louder than any words.

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`The only thing I regret is putting my personal business out there.What has happened to me in the past is my business and no one else . I am not here for people to feel sorry for me, as all that is in the past which I choose not to live in.
Words only hurt for the moment and then I move on and won't keep beating a dead horse.. I say what I have to say and move on.

I AM ME
I AM MYSELF
NOT ONLY HERE
BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE.

THIS IS NOT PRACTICE
THIS IS NOT A TEST
FOR SOMETHING ELSE
THERE IS NO REST

ALL THERE IS
IS HERE AND NOW
I LIVE THIS MOMENT
AS IF I KNOW HOW

IN THE FUTURE
I CAN NOT SEE
BUT JUST FOR NOW
I KNOW I AM ME... WAH

[blackfootedgirl]

chumani67 wrote: I know you were hoping for issues to be discussed in these forums that enabled people to think deeper about things and, hopefully, make something positive out of it....hon, if you can solve the way people talk to one another and regard one another as human beings to ENABLE honest diagogue, then I believe you will have your wish! And solve a major hurdle for humanity. I just wonder if anyone can be kind and open with people..just because they are another human with feelings..without wanting something. The majority cannot. I have really gone out of my way to respect the people here..and there are kind people here..dont get me wrong..even ones I am not at all happy with..dosen't make them a "bad" person! Just a difference in perspective about this forum and maybe I never should have put the initial post in the first place.. But I am talking about being slammed twice (in emails) about my being a mother..Madonna/Whore complex here! I almost felt as if I were on Catholic Passions! (now, yeah, someone will take offense and I will pre-apologize). Put down by some women terribly..and of course the not "Native enough" to have a voice or a conscience. How much blood in our veins is the appropriate amount to infuse in us a conscience toward our fellow human beings anyway?? I know from the way some have talked to me it sure isn't 1/4...thats how some have made me feel anyway here. I have seen a lot of people go silent on this site for fear of being attacked, verbally. Wonder why?? This reminds me of a bad relationship where two people are walking on eggshells around eachother hoping not to step on someones land mine. How are the major problems that people would like to see solved ever going to be in this world when people can't even go 3 or 4 post without fighting? I am sorry Blackfootedgirl..your heart IS in the right place!! PEOPLE just seem to be fundamentally handicapped in communication. And I include MYSELF! Obviously I am missing something somewhere with my own ability to get a clear point across. You are all...just the same to me, regarded really great people here in the forum. I am just out for now because I dont want those feelings to change and become bitter myself.



Nicely said.

Blackfootedgirl